Episode 9

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14th Dec 2025

What The F**k Your SEO is Actually Charging You For (And Why It's a Scam)

Ever been quoted some ridiculous SEO retainer and thought… hang on, what the f**k am I actually paying for? Yeah. Same as lots of my clients. And honestly, I’m tired of watching small businesses get fleeced by agencies who talk a big game but can’t explain a single thing they’re doing.

Hi, I'm Nikki Pilkington. My site is https://nikki-pilkington.com/ and in this episode of SEO F**king What, I’m breaking down the biggest red flags in SEO.

Guaranteed rankings. “Secret” methodologies. Vague contracts. The lot.

If you’ve ever felt stupid for falling for any of this, don’t. These people are professionals at sounding credible while delivering absolutely nothing.

By the end, you’ll know exactly what questions to ask, what bullshit to ignore, and how to spot an SEO that’s more scammer than specialist.

Part two is coming next week, where I’ll show you what good SEO should actually look like (and what it should cost). But for now, let’s make sure you stop handing your hard-earned money to chancers.

If you’ve got questions, come yell at me on LinkedIn or drop me an email. I don’t bite… unless you promise “guaranteed rankings.”

Timestamped summary

00:00 "Protecting Small Businesses in SEO"

04:03 Vague SEO Contracts Warning

09:27 Avoid SEO Shortcuts

10:21 SEO: Hard Work, Real Experts

This episode is all about helping you ensure your SEO isn't a red flag waving scammer. But you'll have even better results from your SEO by having me in your corner, and I offer supervision and set up of these kinds of arrangements as a service - https://nikki-pilkington.com/seo-training-and-development-uk/

Want to check out more episodes? https://seofuckingwhatpodcast.co.uk/

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Have you ever been quoted 15,000 pounds a month for

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SEO as a small business and wondered what the actual

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fuck you're paying for? Yeah, that's a real quote from a

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real client. Today I'm teaching you how to spot these

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chances before they empty your bank account.

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This is SEO. Fucking what? I'm Nicky and I've

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been doing SEO since before Google even existed, before it

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was called SEO, when we were optimizing for our AltaVista and

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Infoseek. I help small business owners make money from

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their websites by actually getting found online. And I do it

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all by being as non wanky as I can.

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Now, a quick note before we start. I want as many people

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as possible to hear this episode because I'm sick of seeing small

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businesses get ripped off. And look, the reason

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I'm loud and sweary on this podcast is isn't just because I love

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the attention or just because I like to shock. It's

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because I really and actually do care about small

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businesses and about the future of the SEO industry that I

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love. If shouting louder than the latest hustle bro

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flogging a course on LinkedIn gets people's attention, I'll do

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it. But my lovely mum keeps telling me that you catch more flies

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with honey than vinegar. So I've tried to tone it down a bit for this

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one. We'll see how long it lasts. This is a two

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parter. Today in part one, I'm covering the red

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flags that should have you running for the door, the questions that make

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dodgy SEO squirm, and the services that are usually a

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complete waste of your budget. And then next week in part two,

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I'll show you what good SEO actually looks like, what it should cost,

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and how to find legitimate help. Let's crack on, shall we?

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Let's start with the red flags. And honestly, some of these are

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so obvious I shouldn't have to say them. Clearly,

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I do, because people keep falling for this rubbish. Your

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red flag, number one is guaranteed rankings.

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We'll get you to number one on Google. No. No, they

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won't. And here's why. Nobody, and I

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mean absolutely nobody, can guarantee specific

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rankings. Not me, not them, not

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even Google themselves. Google uses hundreds

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of ranking factors the algorithm changes constantly.

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We're talking thousands of tweaks every year with major

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updates dropping several times a year. And guess what? Your

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competitors aren't sitting on their asses doing nothing. They're

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optimizing too. So anyone promising you specific

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rankings is either lying through their teeth or

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planning to use dodgy techniques that will eventually get your site

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penalized, and either way, you lose. So when

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someone guarantees you'll be number one, what they're really saying

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is, I think you're gullible enough to fall for this. Don't

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be. Mysterious.

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Proprietary techniques they can't explain. And I

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love this one. We use our exclusive proprietary ranking

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methodology that. That we can't discuss in detail, which. Basically

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means we're making this up as we go along. Real

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SEO isn't a secret sauce. It's not a magic

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spell. It's methodical work. There are advanced

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techniques and some of it gets quite technical, but a

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genuine expert should be able to explain their approach in terms you

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can understand. If they can't, or more likely

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they won't, they're hiding something. And that something

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is usually their own incompetence. I've had clients come

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to me after paying agencies thousands of pounds. And when I

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ask what the agency did, they have no idea. None.

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Because the agency deliberately kept them in the dark. That's

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not expertise, that's a con.

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Contracts with no clear deliverables. And

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this one does get to me. Watch out for contracts that specify

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monthly payments, but are mysteriously vague about what you'll

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get. SEO services £2,000amonth. Okay,

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so what services? What are you getting for that money? Proper

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SEO proposals should include specific deliverables,

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technical audits, content creation schedules,

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reporting frameworks, implementation timelines. You should know

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exactly what you're paying for. If your contract

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or your invoice just says SEO services without any detail,

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you're probably paying for fresh air with a side of disappointment and

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some automated reports that don't mean anything. Red flag

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number four. The special Google access Nonsense.

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We have insider connections at Google. We have special

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insight into the algorithm. Absolute rubbish. Total and utter

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bollocks. Sorry, mum. Google guards its ranking

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systems like they're the crown jewels. Even most Google

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employees don't have detailed knowledge of how the algorithms work.

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The search quality team keeps that information locked down tight.

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Anyone claiming special access or insider knowledge is talking out

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of their ass. End of story. Move on immediately.

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Red flag number five. Suspiciously cheap

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packages that promise everything. Complete SEO services

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for £99 per month. Month. If it sounds too good to be

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true, it's because it probably is. Quality

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SEO takes time, expertise and effort. None of those

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things come cheap. These bargain basement offerings typically involve

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automated tools, copy and paste AI content and

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generic optimization that delivers no value. Do

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you know what you get for £99amonth? You get someone running your

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site through an automated audit, slapping together a generic

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report and calling it a day. That's not SEO. That's a

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waste of 99 pounds. The saying goes, if you pay

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peanuts, you get monkeys. And in SEO, sometimes

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those monkeys actively damage your site.

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Now let's talk about the questions that make dodgy SEO

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squirm. These are your secret weapons.

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Ask these and watch their reactions carefully. Question

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1 How exactly will you measure success?

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Beware of agencies that focus solely on rankings or traffic.

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Rankings and traffic don't pay your bills. Leads and sales pay

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your bills. A good SEO should talk about conversion

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improvements, leads, sales sign ups.

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They should talk about revenue increases from organic traffic, return

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on your investment and ranking improvements for commercially

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valuable keywords. Keywords that make you money. Not just keywords

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that sound impressive. If they can't explain how their work connects to your

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business goals, they're not worth your money. It's as simple as that.

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Question 2 what specific changes will you make to my website?

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Vague promises of on page optimization or content

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enhancement aren't good enough. A professional should be able to give you a

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clear roadmap after reviewing your site. They should tell you about

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specific technical issues they've found and how they'll fix them. Content gaps

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they've identified and how they'll address them. Structural improvements they

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recommend. If they can't provide specifics, they probably haven't done

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their homework or they don't actually know what they're doing. Could even

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be both. Question 3 How do you stay updated with

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algorithm changes? SEO changes constantly.

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Google made thousands of algorithm updates last year. Ask

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potential SEOs how they stay informed. Look for answers that

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mention specific industry sources. Testing on their own

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sites, professional networks, ongoing education.

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Be really wary of those who claim they just know what works without

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explaining how they adapt. That's not expertise, that's arrogance.

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What happens if we don't see results within six months or a year?

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This question will reveal their confidence and their accountability.

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Good SEOs will discuss what might be quick wins versus what takes longer.

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They'll explain their review process for strategies that aren't working.

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They'll tell you how they adapt based on performance data. If

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they get defensive or only offer vague reassurances about SEO

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taking time, they probably don't have confidence in their own abilities.

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And if they don't believe in themselves, why should you?

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And let's cover quickly what's usually a complete waste of your

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budget.

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And let's cover quickly what's usually a complete waste of your

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budget. The services that sound impressive but deliver nothing.

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Link building packages. We'll build 50 high quality

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backlinks for 500 pounds. No,

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quality links don't come from bulk packages. They come from

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mentions earned through good content, business relationships and

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genuine pr. What you get from those packages is

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directory submissions to irrelevant sites, low

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quality posts on farms, comment spam, and private

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blog network links that violate Google's guidelines. These

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links range from useless to actively harmful.

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Google is not stupid. It can spot artificial link

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building a mile off and the penalties can

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devastate your visibility. Social Media Followers

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While social signals might indirectly benefit SEO,

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most social packages sold as SEO services

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are worthless. Bought followers who never engage Fake

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accounts Generic posting with no strategic purpose

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Unless social media directly drives your business, these services

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rarely deliver anything worth paying for. And anything Black

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hat cloaking, hidden text, spammy doorway pages,

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keyword stuffing paid links on dodgy sites. These

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techniques might work briefly, but when? And I'm not saying

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if, I'm saying when. When Google catches on, the

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penalties are severe and long lasting. Don't let

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anyone talk you into shortcuts. There are no shortcuts in

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SEO, just hard work and patience. So

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that's part one. You now know how to spot the wankers,

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the questions that make them squirm, and the services that will drain your budget

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without delivering results. But do you know what? Not everyone in

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SEO is a chancer. There are genuine experts out there who

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deliver real value. The question is how do you find them?

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And what does good SEO look like? Next week

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I'm going to show you exactly what good SEO looks like.

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The services that actually deliver value, how to find

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legitimate help, what SEO should cost in the UK

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and I'm going to give you numbers. Not it depends Waffle

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how long it takes and why SEO isn't a one off job no matter

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what anyone tells you. If you've been burned before or you're

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nervous about hiring someone, Part two is going to give you everything

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you need to make a smart decision. And if this helped, don't

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keep it to yourself. Make sure you're following SEO Fucking what? In whichever app

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you're listening to right now. And don't miss part two Next week, share it

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with a mate who's about to hire an SEO. You could save them a fortune.

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If you've got a question, feel free to pop me in DM on LinkedIn

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or send me an email. But until next time, don't get ripped off and

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I'll see you in part two.

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SEO F**king What - Get Found on Google, make money from your website
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This podcast exists because you deserve better than the SEO bollocks currently being sold to you.

Every week, I'll give you 10-15 minutes of straight talk about SEO. Practical advice that actually works for B2B websites trying to get found on Google/search and make money. The kind of stuff that's been proven over years, not dreamed up last Tuesday by some LinkedIn tosspot.

Real SEO from someone who's been doing this since dial-up was considered fast. I'll tell you what works, what's complete nonsense, and which tactics will get your website buried faster than you can say "guaranteed first page rankings."

I'm calling out the bullshitters. The agencies promising the world and delivering fuck all. The LinkedIn gooroos flogging courses about things that don't actually exist. The AI SEO "hacks" destroying perfectly good websites. The expensive tools you don't need. The "experts" who learned SEO from a YouTube video three months ago. If someone's talking bollocks about SEO, you'll hear about it here.

More importantly, I'm telling you what to do instead. Every rant comes with actual, practical steps you can take. Real actions that get results, not theory that sounds clever but does bugger all for your rankings. "Do this, then do that, and you'll see movement." That's it. That's the format.

You're running a B2B business or managing a B2B website. You've probably been burned by an SEO agency before. Maybe they took your money and delivered a fancy report full of words that meant absolutely nothing. Or they promised first page rankings and disappeared after six months of bugger all results.

You're sick of reading blog posts that say nothing in 2000 words. You're tired of SEO "tips" that are either blindingly obvious or completely bizarre. You want someone to cut through the crap and tell you what actually matters for your business, not what works for some massive ecommerce site with a budget the size of a small country.

You don't need a PhD in technical SEO. You need to know what's worth your time and what's complete bollocks. You need to know which tactics will actually bring in leads and which ones are just expensive ways to make yourself feel busy. That's what I'm here for.

This isn't some sanitised, corporate-approved SEO podcast where everyone's lovely and we pretend all tactics are equally valid. They're not. Some are brilliant. Most are pointless. And some will actively fuck up your website while the "expert" who recommended them is off selling the same dodgy advice to the next poor sod.

I swear. A lot. If that bothers you, there are plenty of other podcasts out there with hosts who never offend anyone. Go find them. They're very nice. They're also very boring.

This also isn't a podcast that assumes you're stupid. You're not. You're just busy running a business and don't have time to decode the latest algorithm update or work out which SEO tactic is legitimate and which one's complete fantasy.

Fifteen minutes. One topic. I'll tell you what's pissing me off this week in the SEO industry, why it matters to your website, and what you should actually do about it. Then I'm done. You can get back to running your business.

New episodes drop weekly, because the SEO industry creates fresh bullshit faster than I can rant about it. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss the next time some gooroo invents a new problem to sell you the solution to.

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Nikki Pilkington

SEO consultant and copywriter who's spent 30 years watching people panic about algorithm updates while ignoring what actually works.

I help B2B businesses get found on Google without the jargon, false promises, or expensive courses targeting 0.19% of traffic. My morning starts with SE Ranking and Google Search Console because data beats hunches every time.

I don't do overnight results, premium-priced basic tactics, or clients I can't genuinely help. If you don't need my services, I'll tell you that too.

Fair warning: I'm a little bit sweary...