Episode 10

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21st Dec 2025

What The F**king Good SEO People Look Like

Most small business owners don’t fail at SEO.

They get confused, overwhelmed, or quietly ripped off.

Hi, I'm Nikki Pilkington. My site is https://nikki-pilkington.com/ and in this episode of SEO F**king What, which is part two of a two parter, I’m letting you know what a good SEO person looks like in terms of their offers.

What SEO really costs in the UK, how long it takes to work, and how to spot legitimate professionals from cowboys.

No jargon.

No “it depends” nonsense.

No magical promises.

In this episode, I cover:

  1. What proper SEO services should include (and what’s usually a waste of money)
  2. How good SEOs explain their work without hiding behind acronyms
  3. Why rankings don’t pay your mortgage, but revenue does
  4. Realistic SEO pricing for small businesses and ecommerce sites
  5. Honest timelines for technical fixes, content, and results
  6. How to avoid dependency and find SEO help you can actually trust

If you’re about to hire an SEO, already paying one, or wondering why results don’t match the promises, this episode could save you a lot of money and frustration.

If you haven’t listened to part one yet, go back and start there first.

And if this helps, please share it with someone who’s about to sign an SEO contract.

Timestamped summary

00:00 "Good SEO: Clarity Over Jargon"

04:03 "SEO That Drives Real Results"

08:42 "SEO Timelines Simplified"

12:18 "SEO: Consistent, Methodical Work"


This episode is all about helping you identify a decent SEO person from a scammer. But you'll have even better results from your SEO by having me in your corner, and I offer supervision and set up of these kinds of arrangements as a service - https://nikki-pilkington.com/seo-training-and-development-uk/

Want to check out more episodes? https://seofuckingwhatpodcast.co.uk/

Transcript
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Last week I showed you how to spot the SEO wankers.

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This week I'm showing you what the good ones look like and

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exactly how much you should be paying. No more. It

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depends. Bollocks.

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This is SEO fucking what? I'm Nicky, and welcome to Part

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two of how not to Get Ripped off by SEO Experts. If you

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haven't listened to part one yet, go back and do that first.

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Seriously, in part one, I covered the red flags that should have you

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running for the door, the questions that make dodgy SEO squirm, and

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the services that are usually a waste of your money. It's important

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groundwork for what we're covering today. And again, I said this last week,

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but it bears repeating. The reason I'm loud and sweary on this

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podcast is because I care if being louder than the Hustle Bros

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gets more small business owners to pay attention and stop getting fleeced. I'm going

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to keep doing it, but my mum reckons I swear too much. So I've dialed

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it back a bit just for these two episodes. Too many people need to hear

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this stuff, and I don't want the language to put anyone off sharing it. Today,

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I'm going to show you what good SEO looks like, what you should be paying,

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how long it takes, and how to find legitimate help.

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Let's go. Right, let's start with

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what good SEO service actually looks like. Because if you've only ever dealt with

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the cowboys, you might not know what to expect from a professional.

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First of all, clear jargon free explanations.

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Professional SEOs explain complex concepts in plain

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English. They don't hide behind technical nonsense to make themselves

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sound clever or to confuse you into thinking their work is more

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complicated than it is. An SEO has so many

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acronyms. E E A T Y M Y L

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D A P A We love an acronym, but a good SEO

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will explain what these mean and why they matter in terms you

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actually understand. If someone's explanation sounds like

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Alphabet soup and they won't clarify, that's a bad sign.

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They're either hiding their incompetence or

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creating dependency so you can't function without them.

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Neither of those things are acceptable. Secondly,

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transparent reporting on actual business metrics.

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Good reporting doesn't just show rankings or traffic.

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It connects SEO work to business outcomes. Because

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rankings don't pay, your mortgage, revenue does. Effective

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SEO reports should include revenue or leads generated from

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organic search, comparison of traffic quality, not just

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quantity, dates on specific work completed and its impact,

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and clear next steps. The report should

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be more than just an automated list of rankings or a generic tool

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export. It should show you exactly what work was done,

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what impact it had, if possible, and what's coming next

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in language that you understand. If you're getting reports full of

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numbers that don't mean anything to you and your SEO can't explain them,

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that's a problem. Thirdly, education,

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not dependency. This is a big one. The

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best SEO professionals teach you as they work. They want you

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to understand the basics so you can make informed decisions and and

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maintain improvements. Be very wary of SEOs who

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treat their work as mysterious and incomprehensible. They're

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often creating dependency to keep you paying indefinitely.

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A good SEO partner wants to improve your understanding,

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not keep you in the dark. When I work with clients,

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I try to explain everything. Why I'm making changes,

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what I expect to happen, how they can help. Because an

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informed client is a better client. Anyone

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who treats SEO like a magic trick only they can perform

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is taking the piss. Fourthly, focus on

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revenue, not just rankings. Rankings don't pay the bills.

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Genuine SEO experts focus on keywords and strategies that drive

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actual business results. That means targeting

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transactional keywords that attract buyers, not browsers,

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optimizing conversion paths from organic landing pages,

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improving site experience to encourage the sales process,

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tracking and enhancing return on investment. If your

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SEO only talks about getting you to number one without discussing what happens

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afterwards, they're missing the point.

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Now let's talk about the services that actually deliver value for small

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businesses. The stuff worth paying for. Technical

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SEO Audits with Specific Recommendations A

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proper technical audit examines your website's foundation and

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identifies issues holding back performance. It should

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cover crawlability and indexation. Can Google find all your

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pages? Site speed? Is your site fast enough?

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Mobile usability? Does it work properly on phones? And

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crucially, it should include a prioritized list of fixes,

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what to do first, and why. The difference between a

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valuable audit and a waste of money is practical.

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Prioritized recommendations you can implement, not just a

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list of problems dumped in your lap. And next we have a content

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strategy based on actual search data.

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Effective content strategy starts with research into what your

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potential customers are searching for. Look for SEOs who

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are going to conduct keyword research specific to your business

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and location, who are going to analyze search

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intent. Create content plans that address the full customer

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journey. Then look for content strategy that is based

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on actual search data. Effective content

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strategy starts with research into what your potential

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customers are searching for. Look for SEOs who

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undertake research specifically specific to your business and location.

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Okay, business coach in Bournemouth. Let's get your

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SEO Singing Analyze search intent.

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Create content plans that address the full customer journey and

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recommend improvements to existing content, not just endless new

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blog posts. Quality content strategy connects search

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trends to your business offerings. It's not about blogging for the sake of it.

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Also look at local SEO. IT if you're a geographically

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focused business, if you serve specific areas, local

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SEO provides some of the highest returns. That

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includes Google Business Profile Optimization, local

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citation building review strategies and local

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schema implementation. Be very wary of

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local SEO services that only focus on Google Business

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Profile. Effective local strategy needs multiple

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approaches. Working together together and then look at conversion

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improvements. The best traffic in the world is no use if it

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doesn't convert. Good SEOs. Address, landing page

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optimization, call to action placement, form

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simplification, site speed. The overall journey from landing

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page to inquiry. These improvements convert more of your existing

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traffic into customers, often providing faster returns than

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pure ranking work. So that's what good SEO looks like. But the big

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questions still remain. How much should you pay? How long

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does it take? And how do you find someone legitimate?

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I'm covering all of that right after this.

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Let's get into the nitty gritty. This is the stuff that everyone's scared to talk

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about. How much does SEO cost in the uk? And I'm going to

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give you numbers here because I'm sick of people saying it depends on and

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leaving you none the wiser. It does depend,

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but these are reasonable guidelines for a local service

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business. Expect to pay between 500 and

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£1,500amonth. For a small e commerce

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site with maybe under 100 products,

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you're probably going to be paying between 1,000 to

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2,500 pounds a month. For regional businesses

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competing across multiple areas, let's say one to three

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thousand pounds a month. A one time technical audit

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could cost anything from 500 to 3,000 pounds

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depending on the size of your site. Good quality content

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creation, you're looking at £300 plus apiece.

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Anyone charging significantly less could be cutting corners.

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If someone quotes you 15 grand a month for a small B2B services

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website, they better have a very good explanation for where that money's

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going. Wait. How fucking much?

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Oops, sorry, Nicky's mum. I just couldn't believe that

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quote. And again, how long does SEO really take?

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I'm going to give you timelines, not waffle. Technical

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improvements should take two to four weeks to implement,

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couple of months at the max to see impact. A lot of technical

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improvements such as site speed, you'll see impact within a

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week. Local SEO probably two to three

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months for significant improvements, though, there might be some quick wins.

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A decent content strategy should take three to six months for new

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content to gain traction. Good proper link building,

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you're probably looking at 6 to 12 months to see real impact. And

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if you're in a competitive market, you've got six or 12 months to

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wait before you're going to see good, significant movement from

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SEO. There are always quick wins. Your SEO should tell

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you about the quick wins, but you have to bear in mind that

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SEO is a long game and be extremely wary

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of anyone promising major results in less than two to

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three months. Unless you're in a very low competition niche.

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SEO takes time. There's no way around that.

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And finally, how do you find legitimate help?

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I'm going to give you my advice for sorting the professionals from the

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pretenders. And my first piece of advice is look for

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educators, not gatekeepers. The best SEO

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professionals share their knowledge freely. They publish helpful

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content, they offer free resources that provide value, and they

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explain concepts clearly. They want you to understand what

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they're doing. If someone treats SEO like a mysterious black

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box, only they can understand. They're probably hiding their lack of

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expertise. Check their own SEO presence.

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Would you hire a personal trainer who's never seen the inside of a gym? Of

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course not. And the same applies here. A legitimate

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SEO's website should demonstrate that they understand the basics.

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Does it load quickly on mobile? Is it properly structured? Do they

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rank for relevant terms? If they can't sort their own SEO, they

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certainly can't sort yours. Maybe start with a smaller project.

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Don't dive into a 12 month contract without testing the waters.

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Commission a specific project with clear deliverables. A technical

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audit, a one to one session, a content review. See how they

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work, communicate and deliver before you commit long term.

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And trust your gut. Your business instinct has gotten you this far.

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If someone's promises sound like fantasy, they probably are.

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If you feel pressure to sign, immediately walk away.

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If explanations are constantly vague, that's a red flag.

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One more thing before I wrap up. I really want you to listen to

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this. SEO needs ongoing maintenance and

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improvement because your competitors are constantly

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optimizing. That company down the road might look quiet, but

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they could be cranking out content while you're standing still. Google

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updates constantly. What worked last year might be less effective

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today. User behaviors evolve. The way people

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search changes. Different devices, different questions,

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different expectations. New opportunities emerge.

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Your industry isn't static. New services, new

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problems, new questions arise all the time. And like a garden,

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SEO needs regular tending, not just initial

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planting. Budget for ongoing work, not just a one

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time push. And this is the most important thing I want you to take

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away. SEO isn't magic, it's methodical

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work. It involves understanding how search engines function,

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identifying technical issues, creating content that serves

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user needs, building authority through quality references

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and measuring and adapting based on results. Anyone

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claiming otherwise is trying to separate you from your money without delivering

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value and now you know better. So that's it for

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this two parter. If you found this useful, do me a

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favor. Share it with someone who's about to

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just has or might be about to hire an SEO.

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It could save them a lot of money and months of frustration.

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Make sure you're following SEO fucking what in your podcast app so you

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don't miss next week's episode. And if you want straight talking

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SEO help without the bollocks, you know where to find me.

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Nikki pilkington.com until next

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time. Get found, make money, stop getting ripped

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off.

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About the Podcast

SEO F**king What - Get Found on Google, make money from your website
SEO advice that cuts through the crap and doesn't treat you like an idiot
This podcast exists because you deserve better than the SEO bollocks currently being sold to you.

Every week, I'll give you 10-15 minutes of straight talk about SEO. Practical advice that actually works for B2B websites trying to get found on Google/search and make money. The kind of stuff that's been proven over years, not dreamed up last Tuesday by some LinkedIn tosspot.

Real SEO from someone who's been doing this since dial-up was considered fast. I'll tell you what works, what's complete nonsense, and which tactics will get your website buried faster than you can say "guaranteed first page rankings."

I'm calling out the bullshitters. The agencies promising the world and delivering fuck all. The LinkedIn gooroos flogging courses about things that don't actually exist. The AI SEO "hacks" destroying perfectly good websites. The expensive tools you don't need. The "experts" who learned SEO from a YouTube video three months ago. If someone's talking bollocks about SEO, you'll hear about it here.

More importantly, I'm telling you what to do instead. Every rant comes with actual, practical steps you can take. Real actions that get results, not theory that sounds clever but does bugger all for your rankings. "Do this, then do that, and you'll see movement." That's it. That's the format.

You're running a B2B business or managing a B2B website. You've probably been burned by an SEO agency before. Maybe they took your money and delivered a fancy report full of words that meant absolutely nothing. Or they promised first page rankings and disappeared after six months of bugger all results.

You're sick of reading blog posts that say nothing in 2000 words. You're tired of SEO "tips" that are either blindingly obvious or completely bizarre. You want someone to cut through the crap and tell you what actually matters for your business, not what works for some massive ecommerce site with a budget the size of a small country.

You don't need a PhD in technical SEO. You need to know what's worth your time and what's complete bollocks. You need to know which tactics will actually bring in leads and which ones are just expensive ways to make yourself feel busy. That's what I'm here for.

This isn't some sanitised, corporate-approved SEO podcast where everyone's lovely and we pretend all tactics are equally valid. They're not. Some are brilliant. Most are pointless. And some will actively fuck up your website while the "expert" who recommended them is off selling the same dodgy advice to the next poor sod.

I swear. A lot. If that bothers you, there are plenty of other podcasts out there with hosts who never offend anyone. Go find them. They're very nice. They're also very boring.

This also isn't a podcast that assumes you're stupid. You're not. You're just busy running a business and don't have time to decode the latest algorithm update or work out which SEO tactic is legitimate and which one's complete fantasy.

Fifteen minutes. One topic. I'll tell you what's pissing me off this week in the SEO industry, why it matters to your website, and what you should actually do about it. Then I'm done. You can get back to running your business.

New episodes drop weekly, because the SEO industry creates fresh bullshit faster than I can rant about it. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss the next time some gooroo invents a new problem to sell you the solution to.

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About your host

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Nikki Pilkington

SEO consultant and copywriter who's spent 30 years watching people panic about algorithm updates while ignoring what actually works.

I help B2B businesses get found on Google without the jargon, false promises, or expensive courses targeting 0.19% of traffic. My morning starts with SE Ranking and Google Search Console because data beats hunches every time.

I don't do overnight results, premium-priced basic tactics, or clients I can't genuinely help. If you don't need my services, I'll tell you that too.

Fair warning: I'm a little bit sweary...