Episode 34

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26th Jul 2026

The SEO Industry is Fu... errrmmm... Eating its Own Future

I'm going to say something that's going to piss off anyone currently building their entire SEO career on AI prompts: if you've never done the boring stuff manually, you can't tell when the AI is lying to you. There. I said it.

Hi, I'm Nikki Pilkington. My site is https://nikki-pilkington.com/ and in this episode of "SEO F**king What", I'm talking about the thing that's actually keeping me up at night — not a Google update, not a dodgy agency tactic, but a slow-motion skills crisis the SEO industry is bringing entirely on itself.

It started with a LinkedIn post from the brilliant Jo Furnival at Sitebulb, about junior SEOs feeling like they're falling behind because they're not building elaborate AI workflows. She's right that the boring work still wins. But it got me thinking about something bigger: a whole generation of SEOs and copywriters are being handed AI tools before they've ever learned how any of this actually works — and that's a problem for all of us, not just them.

Here's what I'm covering:

  • Why you can't judge whether an AI's SEO advice is right or catastrophically wrong until you've done the work yourself
  • The difference between operating a tool and having actual judgment — and why only one of those survives contact with a messy real website
  • Why the same skills gap is opening up in copywriting, not just SEO
  • Where the "it's just a calculator" argument for AI falls apart if you don't understand the maths
  • What happens to the industry in three years' time when a whole generation skips the learning stage
  • Four practical things to do right now if you're early in your career (or managing someone who is)

And yes, there's homework. Not the "might get round to it one day" kind — the pick-one-thing-and-learn-it-properly-this-week kind. I walk you through exactly what to do in the episode.

If you're managing a junior SEO, or you are one, and you've been handed a stack of AI tools with no actual training — send them this. It might be the thing that stops a very expensive skills gap from becoming their problem in three years' time.

Get found. Make money. And for the love of all that is holy, learn the fucking basics before you let the AI do the thinking for you.

Links mentioned:

Non-Wanky SEO Toolkit (free for now, usually £200): https://nonwankyseo.com

Sitebulb (Jo Furnival's website crawler): https://sitebulb.com

Follow Nikki:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikkipilkington/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikkipilkington/

Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nikkipilkington.bsky.social

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The SEO industry is about 12 months away from a skills crisis, and

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it's brought it entirely on itself.

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This is SEO Fucking What?

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I'm Nikki.

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I've been doing SEO for over 30 years, and today I want to talk about

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something that keeps me up at night.

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It's not a dodgy agency tactic.

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It's not another Google update.

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It's something slower and more insidious than that.

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Specifically, it's fucking its own future, and the way it's doing that is

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by letting a whole generation of SEOs and copywriters skip the bit where they

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actually learn how any of this works.

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So this episode started from a LinkedIn post.

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The absolutely amazing Jo Furnivall from Sitebulb wrote something genuinely decent

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about junior SEOs feeling like they're behind because they're not building some

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elaborate AI workflow in their spare time.

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And her point was a good one.

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The boring work still wins.

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Technical hygiene, decent content, audits, fundamentals.

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And I agreed with all of that, but it got me thinking about

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something slightly different.

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Something that didn't fit neatly into a LinkedIn comment, which is

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why it's ended up here instead.

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I posted that I think the SEO industry and the copywriting industry, and

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probably a few other disciplines, are about 12 to 18 months away

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from realizing there's a problem.

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And that problem is this: We have no new up-and-coming talent who know the basics.

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And these people aren't stupid or lazy.

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They've just been handed AI and told to get on with it before they've

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ever had to think for themselves.

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you cannot know if an LLM is talking bollocks about SEO until you know SEO,

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and that's what keeps me up at night.

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If you've never manually checked a robot's TXT file and understood what

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it's doing, you cannot look at what an AI spits out and know whether

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it's right or catastrophically wrong.

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If you've never done keyword research the slow, painful, slightly soul-destroying

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way and thought about what a person is trying to find, you cannot review

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an AI-generated content brief and spot where it's missed the point entirely.

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If you've never read a crawl report, written a redirect map, or sat and

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thought properly about site structure, an AI tool telling you what to do

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is just noise you can't evaluate.

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You're flying blind, and you don't even know you're flying

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blind because the AI sounds so fucking confident about everything.

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I've been in this industry since before it was called SEO, and the way you got

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good at it was by wading through it.

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You ran experiments.

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You watched what happened.

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You got things wrong and worked out why.

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You built up a mental model of how search actually works through doing the

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work, not by outsourcing the thinking to a tool and hoping for the best.

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That process is slow.

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Sometimes it's fucking tedious, but it's absolutely, completely, non-negotiably

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essential because what comes out of the other end of that is judgment.

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Not a checklist, not a prompt, actual judgment.

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The ability to look at a situation and think, "That doesn't seem right.

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I want to understand why." The ability to tell the difference between

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an SEO recommendation that makes sense and one that sounds plausible

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but is actually going to cause problems three months down the line.

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And we're currently producing a generation of people who haven't built that because

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they haven't had to, because there's always been an AI tool to do the thinking,

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generate the output, suggest the fix.

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And when those people hit a situation the AI handles badly, or the AI confidently

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gets wrong, they won't know because they've never had the reference point

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And I wanna be clear, it… this is not just SEO.

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I see it with copywriting.

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I've spoken to copywriters who are entirely reliant on AI output and have

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never really grappled with what makes a piece of writing actually work, who

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haven't spent years writing stuff that was a bit shit and learning from it, who

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can't look at AI copy and tell you why it sounds like AI copy because they don't

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have enough experience of what good human writing feels like to spot the difference.

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It's the same principle, just a different discipline.

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The same gap opening up in the talent pipeline.

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And I know, I can already hear it.

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"But Nikki, AI is just a tool." And you're right, it is just a tool.

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And you'll tell me, "It's like a calculator. You still need to understand

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the maths." And that's it exactly.

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You still need to understand the maths.

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. If you don't understand the maths, you can't use the calculator sensibly.

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You can't sense check the output.

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You can't tell when it's given you something that looks right but isn't.

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And in SEO, the stakes are not abstract.

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Bad SEO recommendations implemented without question tank websites,

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kill traffic, lose revenue.

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I've spent years fixing problems that were caused by someone following

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advice from an agency, from a tool, and now from AI, without having the

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knowledge to interrogate it first.

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That's already happening, and it's going to get much, much worse as people

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doing the work have less and less baseline knowledge to bring to it.

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And part of what's driving this is the LinkedIn panic machine.

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And I touched on this back in episode one, so I'm not gonna spend long on it,

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but the noise at the moment about AI workflows and LLM integration

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and vibe-coded whatever the fuck is completely overwhelming.

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And if you're early in your SEO career and you're spending all your mental

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energy trying to build an AI-powered audit tool in your bedroom to prove

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you're relevant, you are not spending that mental energy on understanding what

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a good audit actually looks like and why.

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You're optimizing for looking competent rather than becoming competent,

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and those two things have very different outcomes over five years.

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And what worries me, it's not the juniors, bless them.

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They're just responding to the incentives they've been given.

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What worries me is where the midweights are going to come from.

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Because the way SEO works, the way any skilled discipline works, is you

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have people that have been doing it for years and have developed real

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expertise, and you have people coming up who are learning from doing, making

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mistakes, developing that judgment.

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And in a few years, those people become the mid-weights.

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And in a few years after that, some of them become the seniors.

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That pipeline works because each stage involves learning.

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If the learning stage gets skipped because AI is handling all the thinking,

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what do you get in three years when those people should be mid-weights?

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You get people with three years of experience and 18

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months of actual knowledge.

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You get people who can operate the tools but cannot think independently of them.

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You get people who will be completely lost the next time something significant shifts

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in how search works because they haven't built the foundation that lets you adapt.

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And you get a talent gap that the industry will spend years trying to

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understand, wondering where all the good mid-weight SEOs went, having absolutely

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created the fucking problem itself.

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This is not me saying AI is bad or people shouldn't use it.

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I use it.

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It has genuinely useful applications.

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But if you are new to SEO or you're managing someone who is, please hear this.

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Do the boring stuff first.

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Do it manually.

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Do it the slow way.

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Understand what you're looking at before you let a tool interpret it for you.

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Run a crawl and read the report yourself.

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Don't just let a tool prioritize it for you until you understand

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why things get prioritized.

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Do keyword research with actual thought behind it.

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Understand search intent from first principles before

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you outsource the thinking.

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Write content yourself.

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Struggle with it.

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Work out what makes it good.

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Then when you use AI to help, you'll know whether what it's produced is any good.

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Test things.

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See what happens.

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Get things wrong and learn from it.

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That's not time wasted.

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It's literally how you build the knowledge that makes you valuable in five years.

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And if you're managing junior SEOs, give them the space to do that.

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Don't just hand them AI tools and a list of prompts and

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tell them to get on with it.

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That's not training.

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That's outsourcing your training budget to a language model after the break,

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I want to get a bit more practical because this isn't just a rant for

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the sake of it, much as I love that.

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There are things to do if you're early in your career that will set

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you apart from everyone who just went straight to the AI tools.

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Stick around.

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Okay, practical stuff 'cause I'm not here just to be grumpy at you,

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even if I am quite good at it.

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If you are early in your career in SEO or if you're a business owner

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who's handed SEO responsibility to someone junior, here's what I suggest.

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First, pick one thing and understand it properly.

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Not every SEO thing, one thing.

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Internal linking, keyword research, meta titles.

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One thing.

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Learn it without AI.

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Read about it.

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Do it manually on a real website.

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See what happens.

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Then use AI to assist once you've built the foundation.

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Second, get curious about why things work, not just whether they work.

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The junior SEOs who will be brilliant in five years are the ones asking, "Why

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do we do this?" Not just, "What should I do?" The ones that build judgment.

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Chase the why.

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Third, break things deliberately.

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Set up a test site, mess with the robot's text and see what gets de-indexed.

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Change a title tag and watch what happens to the click-through rate.

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You learn SEO by watching it respond to what you do.

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You don't get that from a textbook or a prompt.

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And fourth, find someone who will tell you when you're fucking wrong, whether

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that's a mentor, a more experienced colleague, a community, whatever.

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Find someone who knows more than you and will actually push back

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on your thinking, not someone who just validates everything you do.

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That's not useful.

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Because that's what I got coming up in SEO, people who had more experience

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and told me when I was getting it wrong, and it was uncomfortable,

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but it was an… And yes, it was uncomfortable, but it was essential.

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The SEO industry doesn't have a surplus of people who will tell you difficult things,

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but the ones who will are worth finding.

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If you're listening to this and you're thinking about your own career or you're

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thinking about how you're developing the people around you, I hope this has

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given you something to think about.

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And if this has been useful, make sure you're following SEO Fucking

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What wherever you're listening so you don't miss the next episode.

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If you want to learn on-page SEO properly, the fundamentals, the stuff that matters

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from someone who's been doing it for 30 years and will abso-fucking-lutely

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tell you where you're getting it wrong, go and have a look at the Non-Wanky

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SEO Toolkit at nonwankyseo.com.

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I've made it free for now.

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It was 200 pounds, but now it's free.

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Give it a go.

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10 modules, perfect on-page SEO.

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It's worth a try.

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Until next time, Get found, make money, and for the love of all that is holy,

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learn the fucking basics before you let the AI do the thinking for you

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SEO F**king What - Get Found on Google and make money from your website with practical SEO tips
SEO advice that cuts through the crap and doesn't treat you like an idiot
This podcast exists because you deserve better than the SEO bollocks currently being sold to you.

Every week, I'll give you 10-15 minutes of straight talk about SEO. Practical advice that actually works for B2B websites trying to get found on Google/search and make money. The kind of stuff that's been proven over years, not dreamed up last Tuesday by some LinkedIn tosspot.

Real SEO from someone who's been doing this since dial-up was considered fast. I'll tell you what works, what's complete nonsense, and which tactics will get your website buried faster than you can say "guaranteed first page rankings."

I'm calling out the bullshitters. The agencies promising the world and delivering fuck all. The LinkedIn gooroos flogging courses about things that don't actually exist. The AI SEO "hacks" destroying perfectly good websites. The expensive tools you don't need. The "experts" who learned SEO from a YouTube video three months ago. If someone's talking bollocks about SEO, you'll hear about it here.

More importantly, I'm telling you what to do instead. Every rant comes with actual, practical steps you can take. Real actions that get results, not theory that sounds clever but does bugger all for your rankings. "Do this, then do that, and you'll see movement." That's it. That's the format.

You're running a B2B business or managing a B2B website. You've probably been burned by an SEO agency before. Maybe they took your money and delivered a fancy report full of words that meant absolutely nothing. Or they promised first page rankings and disappeared after six months of bugger all results.

You're sick of reading blog posts that say nothing in 2000 words. You're tired of SEO "tips" that are either blindingly obvious or completely bizarre. You want someone to cut through the crap and tell you what actually matters for your business, not what works for some massive ecommerce site with a budget the size of a small country.

You don't need a PhD in technical SEO. You need to know what's worth your time and what's complete bollocks. You need to know which tactics will actually bring in leads and which ones are just expensive ways to make yourself feel busy. That's what I'm here for.

This isn't some sanitised, corporate-approved SEO podcast where everyone's lovely and we pretend all tactics are equally valid. They're not. Some are brilliant. Most are pointless. And some will actively fuck up your website while the "expert" who recommended them is off selling the same dodgy advice to the next poor sod.

I swear. A lot. If that bothers you, there are plenty of other podcasts out there with hosts who never offend anyone. Go find them. They're very nice. They're also very boring.

This also isn't a podcast that assumes you're stupid. You're not. You're just busy running a business and don't have time to decode the latest algorithm update or work out which SEO tactic is legitimate and which one's complete fantasy.

Fifteen minutes. One topic. I'll tell you what's pissing me off this week in the SEO industry, why it matters to your website, and what you should actually do about it. Then I'm done. You can get back to running your business.

New episodes drop weekly, because the SEO industry creates fresh bullshit faster than I can rant about it. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss the next time some gooroo invents a new problem to sell you the solution to.

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Nikki Pilkington

SEO consultant and copywriter who's spent 30 years watching people panic about algorithm updates while ignoring what actually works.

I help B2B businesses get found on Google without the jargon, false promises, or expensive courses targeting 0.19% of traffic. My morning starts with SE Ranking and Google Search Console because data beats hunches every time.

I don't do overnight results, premium-priced basic tactics, or clients I can't genuinely help. If you don't need my services, I'll tell you that too.

Fair warning: I'm a little bit sweary...