Episode 44

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4th Oct 2026

Negative SEO Is Mostly a Con. Here's What Actually Hurts You

Somebody is going to tell you your competitor is attacking your SEO, and then offer to protect you for a monthly fee. That's the con. But there are real attacks, and they're not the ones being sold to you.

Hi, I'm Nikki Pilkington. My site is https://nikki-pilkington.com/ and in this episode of "SEO F**king What", I'm taking apart negative SEO: the idea that someone else can deliberately damage your rankings. It's one of the most effective fear sales in this industry because it does two things at once. It explains away a drop that might be your agency's fault, and it justifies a new line on an invoice. I'm going to tell you what's mostly rubbish, and then I'm going to tell you what's real, because there are ways someone can do you harm, and no one's selling protection for those. Funny that.

Here's what I'm covering:

— Why dumping thousands of dodgy links on a competitor used to work, and why it doesn't now (Google moved from punishing the site to ignoring the rubbish around 2016)

— The disavow tool: the one situation it genuinely belongs in, and why the monthly "backlink monitoring" line on your invoice is probably protecting you from nothing

— Why "a competitor attacked you" is such a convenient explanation for someone whose work you're questioning, and the three questions to ask before you accept it

— The real threats nobody sells protection for, starting with the fact that anyone can suggest an edit to your Google Business Profile, including that you're permanently closed

— Hacked sites, fake copyright complaints that get your pages removed from Google, review bombing, and the ex-agency that still holds your logins

— Four free checks you can do this week, plus my favourite kind of homework: cancelling something

I also give you a proper piece of homework. Four checks, all free, and one thing to cancel. Not the "might do that one day" kind. The actual do-it-this-week kind, including a 10-second look in Search Console that tells you whether anybody has penalised you.

If you know someone who's just been told they're under attack, send them this. It might save them a monthly fee.

Get found. Make money. Stop stressing. And go and check your opening hours.

Chapters:

00:00 — Somebody's about to sell you protection

02:30 — The disavow tool: where the money is

04:03 — The real threats nobody's selling you protection for

07:55 — Homework: four free checks

09:43 — The negative homework: cancel the protection

Links mentioned:

Non-Wanky SEO Courses (the On-Page SEO Toolkit is now free): https://nonwankyseo.com

Google on the disavow tool (and why most sites don't need it): https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2648487

Search Console manual actions report: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9044175

Search Console security issues report: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9044101

Google's spam policies (including hacked content): https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies

Episode 2, on who actually owns your Google accounts: https://seofuckingwhatpodcast.co.uk/episode/your-seo-sht-who-actually-owns-it

The review side of things: https://seofuckingwhatpodcast.co.uk/episode/handle-your-reviews-legally-or-risk-a-300000-fine

Follow Nikki:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikkipilkington/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikkipilkington/

Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nikkipilkington.bsky.social

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Transcript
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Somebody is going to tell you your competitor is attacking your SEO and then

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offer to protect you for a monthly fee.

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That's the con.

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But there are real attacks, and they're not the one being sold to you.

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This is SEO Fucking What?

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I'm Nikki, over 30 years doing this, back before it was called SEO.

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I help small business owners make money from their websites.

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Today, I wanna talk about negative SEO, which is the idea that someone

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else can deliberately damage your rankings, and it's one of the most

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effective fear sales in this industry because it does two things at once.

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It explains away a drop that might be your agency's fault, and it

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justifies a new line on an invoice.

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So I'm gonna tell you what's mostly rubbish, and then I'm gonna tell you

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what's real because there are ways that someone can do you harm, and no

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one's selling protection for those.

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Funny that.

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So the one they sell you, the classic negative SEO story goes like this: a

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competitor points thousands of spammy links at your website from dodgy sites.

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Google sees a dirty backlink profile, and your rankings collapse.

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Now, has that ever been possible?

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Yes.

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There was a period, roughly the years either side of 2012, where dumping rubbish

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links on a site could genuinely cause it problems because Google was penalising

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sites for the links pointing at them.

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What changed is that Google stopped doing it that way.

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From around 2016, the link handling moved towards ignoring the rubbish

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rather than punishing the site it points at, for the obvious reason that

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punishing you for something anyone can do to you is a catastrophically

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stupid way to build a search engine.

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If it worked, every competitive search result in the country would be a war

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zone, and no one would ever rank for anything without a security budget.

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Google's own people, John Mueller in particular, have said many times over

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the years that most sites don't need to worry about this, and most sites

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shouldn't touch the disavow tool.

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Which brings me to the disavow tool because this is where the money is.

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The disavow tool still exists.

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It tells Google to ignore links from specific sites, and there's

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an entire cottage industry built on charging you monthly to monitor your

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backlinks and disavow the bad ones.

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So what you need to know, Google already ignores the vast majority of

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that stuff without even being asked, and it's perfectly possible to make

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things worse by disavowing links which were doing you good because

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somebody with a tool and a threshold decided a site looked a bit iffy.

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The only time disavow genuinely belongs in the conversation is if you've got an

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actual manual action for links, usually because somebody bought links on your

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behalf, and you can't get them removed.

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That's usually the only thing you need to use it for.

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So if there's a line on your invoice for backlink monitoring, link auditing,

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or negative SEO protection, and you've never had a manual action,

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ask what it's protecting you from.

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Run it through the questions from a few episodes back.

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Where did Google say this?

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Who tested it?

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Who gets paid if I believe it?

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There is one more thing worth saying.

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If an agency or an SEO consultant like me tells you that a drop was

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caused by a competitor attacking you, that's an extremely convenient

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explanation for someone whose work you're currently questioning.

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It costs them nothing, and it explains everything.

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Go and do the 20-minute check I gave you in the traffic

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episode before you accept it.

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But

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So some attacks are real, and then that's the part that no

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one's selling you a package for.

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What normally happens is that businesses pay for a bodyguard while

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leaving the keys in the front door.

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The theatrical threat gets the budget, but the boring one gets ignored.

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The first thing I need you to look at is your Google Business profile, and this

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is the one I'd worry about most because it's easy, it costs nothing, and it works.

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Anyone can suggest an edit to your Google Business profile.

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They can suggest an edit to your address, your opening hours,

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your phone number, your category.

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They can suggest that you're permanently closed, and suggested edits can go

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live before you've noticed, especially if you never check it and you haven't

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got notifications switched on.

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Think about what that does.

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Your hours are wrong, so people turn up to a closed door.

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Your phone number's wrong, so inquiries go nowhere.

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You're marked as permanently closed, so people looking for

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you decide you've gone under.

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None of that is an SEO problem in the technical sense, and all of

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it costs you money immediately.

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Whether it's a competitor being an asshole or just some helpful soul with

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bad information, the fix is the same.

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Claim it, check it, and put your notifications on

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So that's your Google Business Profile.

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The next thing is someone getting into your website.

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Being hacked is by far the most common way an outsider actually

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damages your search visibility, and it usually isn't even personal.

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It's automated.

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It's looking for out-of-date plugins, and it's not targeting you specifically.

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What it does is inject pages you can't see on your own site or adds redirects that

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only fire for visitors coming from search, so everything looks completely normal

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when you type in your own web address.

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Meanwhile, Google's crawling a site full of spam, and eventually it acts on it.

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I'm gonna do a full episode on this 'cause I think it deserves

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one, and there's a lot to say about how you spot it and what you do.

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But for today, just know that this is the real version of the

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thing people are scared of, and the protection you need is boring.

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Update your fucking software next one makes me really angry, and it's

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getting more and more frequent.

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Someone scrapes your pages, publishes it as theirs, and then files a copyright

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complaint claiming that you copied them.

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Your page gets removed from Google's results.

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You did nothing wrong.

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You own the content, and you're the one who disappears while you sort it

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out, and sorting it out takes weeks.

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And that's a separate episode as well because the processes for dealing with

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it needs proper explaining, and I'm not gonna give you half of it, but it's real.

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It's happening to small businesses, and it's the one genuine remote

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attack on this list that requires no technical skill whatsoever

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The next one is your reviews.

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Review bombing is real.

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It's usually more about your reputation than your rankings, and I've covered

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the review side of things elsewhere, so I'm not gonna go over it again,

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but it's worth knowing it exists, and it's worth having a process for it.

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And then, of course, we have the people who already have your keys.

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It's not an attack as much as leverage.

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If a former agency owns your domain, your search console property, your

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analytics, or your business profile, they don't need to attack anything.

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They just need to stop cooperating.

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I did a whole episode on ownership early on, in episode two , and it's the one I'd

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most like every listener to have acted on

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So after the break, the checks.

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There's four of them.

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They're free, and between them, they cover everything on the list that

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you can do something about today.

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Here's your homework.

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One, check for a manual action.

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Go to Search Console, look at the manual action reports.

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Takes 10 seconds, and it either says, "No issues detected," or it

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tells you what Google's done and why.

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If it says no issues detected, nobody's penalised you.

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Nobody's links have done anything to you.

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You can stop worrying about that entire category.

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While you're in there, look at the security issues report as well.

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Number two, look at your own site the way Google sees it.

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In Google, search site:yourdomain.

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yourbusiness.co.uk, no spaces.

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That shows you what Google has indexed.

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Scroll through it.

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You're looking for pages you don't recognise, titles in a language you

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don't publish in, casino pages you definitely didn't put on your website.

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If you find any, that's an injected spam problem, and you need somebody

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looking at your hosting, not your SEO.

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Number three, go and look at your Google Business profile

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properly, not a glance at it.

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Check the address, the hours, the phone number, the category , the

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website link, character by character.

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Check it isn't flagged as closed.

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Go into the settings, turn notifications on, so you find out when somebody

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suggests a change instead of finding out when a customer rings

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up asking why you've shut down.

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Number four, write down who owns what.

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Domain registrar, hosting, Search Console, Analytics, business profile.

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If the answer to any of those is, "I think the agency has that," or, "Bob

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the web designer has that," that's your job this week, and it matters more

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than anything else in this episode.

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And the negative homework, which is my favourite kind, if somebody's currently

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charging you monthly for backlink monitoring or negative SEO protection and

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you've got no manual action, cancel it.

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Put the money towards your service pages.

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The pattern here is the same one I keep coming back to.

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The dramatic threat gets sold to you because fear is easy to invoice for.

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The boring threats, out-of-date software, an unclaimed listing, an

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agency holding your logins, these don't come with a nice slide deck, and those

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are the ones that take businesses down.

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If this was useful, follow SEO Fucking What wherever you're listening so

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you don't miss the next one, and stick it in front of anyone who's

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just been told they're under attack.

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My On-page SEO toolkit is now free, so go and grab it at nonwankyseo.com.

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And until next time, get found, make money, and go and check your opening hours

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Nikki Pilkington

SEO consultant and copywriter who's spent 30 years watching people panic about algorithm updates while ignoring what actually works.

I help B2B businesses get found on Google without the jargon, false promises, or expensive courses targeting 0.19% of traffic. My morning starts with SE Ranking and Google Search Console because data beats hunches every time.

I don't do overnight results, premium-priced basic tactics, or clients I can't genuinely help. If you don't need my services, I'll tell you that too.

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